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Well, I modified my message.

When I designed this logo I did not think about any licensing. It is free for any use. So you may safely undelete it. I just want it to be appearing on the page of the festival be:Зялёны_Гран-Пры. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pashick (talk • contribs) 16:27, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Pashick: Hi,
For all complex logos, a formal written permission is needed. Please see COM:OTRS for the procedure. Regards, Yann (talk) 16:53, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

images from my WW2 collection

Hello,

May I ask why are the images here planned for deletion? I collect WW2 memorabilia and original documents for 20 years. I scanned part of my items for sharing here in Wikimedia for other users to learn and enjoy. What do you need from me on this matter? Let me know please what I need to do.

Thanks, Neil — Preceding unsigned comment added by Huddyhuddy (talk • contribs)

@Huddyhuddy: Hi,
Please answer in Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Huddyhuddy‎. I watch that page, and it is much easier to follow discussion. Also please sign with 4 tildes like ~~~~. Thanks, Yann (talk) 16:31, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Creator:Antoine Bailly has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this creator, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 23:53, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Autorisation fichiers Jean Galmiche

Bonjour Yann,

je pensais vous avoir signalé une intervention dans les autorisations du 'Tennis magazine' mais je ne retrouve pas cela dans 'Discussion'. J'ai dû faire une mauvaise manipulation.

Au vu du questionnement des sociétés à qui je demande les autorisations, je me suis auto-censuré en ne demandant à Tennis Magazine' que l'autorisation des Pages 60 et 61. Du coup il y a une intervertion, les fichiers autorisés sont:

au lieu de

Je profite de cette discussion pour aborder le sujet de la complexité des autorisations: Pour obtenir l'autorisation de Radio Prague il a fallu une vingtaine d'échanges entre Radio Prague et l'administrateur pour convaincre ce dernier (Clôture avec la facture payée par Radio Prague au photographe).

Cela recommence avec Le Collège de France qui a bien donné explicitement son autorisation pour l'instantané de la vidéo exposée par le Pr Galmiche. Rebolote, question qui a fait la vidéo ? Alors qu'elle est sous la responsabilité du Collège de France. J'ai refait un mail au Collège de France mais je crois que je vais arrêter avant le n ième mail je culpabilise de prendre tant de temps à nos scientifiques.

encore merci pour votre aide.

Bien cordialement, --Amage9 (talk) 14:18, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Amage9: Bonjour,
Je sais que la procédure est complexe, mais on peut difficilement faire autrement si on veut faire les choses correctement. N'oubliez pas que les fichiers publiés ici peuvent être réutilisés non seulement sur tous les projets de Wikimedia, mais aussi à l'extérieur, y compris pour une utilisation commerciale. Une autorisation de publication peut entraîner des suites judiciaires, aussi il est important que toutes les précautions soient prises pour de pas avoir d'ennuis ensuite, à la fois pour Commons, et pour les utilisateurs extérieurs. Pour les fichiers ci-dessus, que voulez-vous que je fasse ? Pour le Collège de France, c'est à eux de voir qui possède les droits d'auteur. En France, les droits appartiennent par défaut à l'auteur, sauf transfert explicite par contrat. Cordialement, Yann (talk) 12:27, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Bonjour yann,
pour les fichiers Jean Galmiche, il faudrait retirer l'autorisation de la couverture et valider l'autorisation pour la page 61.
Pour les demandes d'autorisations, je vais refaire mon formulaire pour bien préciser que 'les droits appartiennent par défaut à l'auteur, sauf transfert explicite par contrat'. Votre formulation évite ces mails d'incompréhension entre le solliciteur et le sollicité.
Merci d'avance,
--Amage9 (talk) 13:13, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Amage9: Bonjour,
Le fichier File:MagTennisJeanGalmicheP61.jpeg n'existe pas. Il faudrait l'importer avec le modèle {{OTRS pending}}. Cordialement, Yann (talk) 13:29, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Bonsoir,
j'ai renvoyé le mail d'autorisation pages 60 et 61 à Permissions - Wikimedia Commons (fr) <permissions-commons-fr@wikimedia.org> (Ticket:2015011510013535 Tennis Magazine) est-ce suffisant ou dois-je resolliciter 'Tennis Magazine' qui a déjà donné l'autorisation tout en mettant permissions-commons-fr en copie?
Bien cordialement,
--Amage9 (talk) 20:36, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Amage9: Bonjour,
Le problème ici n'est pas l'autorisation, mais le fichier, qui n'a semble-t-il jamais été importé sur Commons. Si vous avez une copie, pourriez-vous l'importer avec le modèle {{OTRS pending}} ? Cordialement, Yann (talk) 20:43, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Bonjour,
J'ai importé le fichier mais je ne suis pas sûr d'être bien avec le modèle {{OTRS pending}} je ne sais pas où l'insérer.
Merci.
Cordialement,
--Amage9 (talk) 15:21, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

not knowing how to upload images on Wikimedia

I do not know how to upload images onto Wikimedia. I'm very scared of being blocked for copyright violation. How could I upload via camera? September 1988 (talk) 19:39, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@September 1988: Hi,
Don't worry, we only block users who are uploading copyvios without any care, and not willing to discuss. If you upload your own pictures, no risk to be blocked, but you need to check about recent monuments and works of art in countries where there is no freedom of panorama. See COM:FOP for the list. Please ask if you have specific questions. I don't know anything about uploading directly from the camera, but many pictures could be improved with small changes with a photo editing software (Photoshop, Gimp, etc.). Regards, Yann (talk) 20:41, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I work at Hamilton College in the publications office and uploaded an updated version of our College seal. Perhaps I chose the incorrect usage rights, but this file does come directly from the College. Our old logo has the follow usage: {{Non-free use rationale logo | Article = Hamilton College (New York) | Use = Infobox | Source = http://www.hamilton.edu/ }} {{Non-free logo}} Category:University logos. I'm not really familiar with Wikipedia and any assistance you can provide would be appreciated. Thank you,

Esena Jackson (http://www.hamilton.edu/communications-development/communications) Associate Director of Digital Media Hamilton College www.hamilton.edu — Preceding unsigned comment added by Esenajj (talk • contribs)

@Esenajj: Hi,
All complex logos need a formal written permission before being uploaded here. Please see COM:OTRS for the procedure. The file can be restored once the permission is received. Please ask if you need help. Regards, Yann (talk) 18:51, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict of interest

I know that you're a friend of Adam Cuerden and that's a clear conflict of interests. You should step aside because I'm going to report him. If you keep up harassing me on my talk page, I'll report you as well. Trust me, I'm a highly experienced editor with dozens of FA at the English Wikipedia. You're pushing way too far. --Lecen (talk) 19:02, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Your edit count on the English WP doesn't allow you to do edit warring here. Regards, Yann (talk) 19:05, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Yann,

You or a bot —I'm not sure who— deleted this picture because or a mismatching licensing stuff.

Wikipedia gave me not the right choice to use this logo. That logo is indeed protected by copyright, by its author give permission to use it unmodified when referring to the Pale Moon web browser. More info, here.

So:

  • It is not a Creative Commons work
  • I'm not its author

Do I must contact its original author and ask him for a proper copyright tag? Can you restore this picture after I get the proper copyright tag?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KNTRO (talk • contribs)

@KNTRO: Hi,
To be allowed in Commons, a work must be under a free license or in the public domain. This logo is neither of these. It is only allowed on some local Wikipedias (notably in English), under a fair use rationale. But fair use material is not allowed on Commons. Regards, Yann (talk) 23:22, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Images recently deleted and tagged by you

You may want to look at this thing I started Commons:Requests for checkuser/Case/JoseIIG2 seeing as it involves one of the same users. Thanks Ww2censor (talk) 23:47, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think you might want to consider looking at this again: It really is just a scaled-down, slightly modified copy of it, and literally the only people voting keep are the people who made it for the en-wiki page - you'll see all their names here - except Dornicke.

The deletions process is open to being hijacked by a relatively small number of editors. We don't need a scaled-down, vandalized copy. Adam Cuerden (talk) 11:12, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I finally see that you are right. Regards, Yann (talk) 11:36, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yann, would you consider summarizing what has happened here at AN? If there is to be action, it would be best summarized briefly and calmly with sufficient clear evidence. Thanks -- (talk) 11:44, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Censored Photos - Copyright rights

Hello Yann,

A few days ago you sent us this message:

"Hello VCFDigital.

It has come to my/someone else's attention that you have uploaded several files that are copyright violations. You have done so despite requests from editors not to do so, and despite their instructions. See Commons:Licensing for the copyright policy on Wikimedia Commons. You may also find Commons:Copyright rules by subject matter useful.

This is your last warning. Continuing to upload copyright violations will result in your account being blocked. Please leave me a message if you have further questions."

We are the Digital Department of Valencia CF. The photos that you say don't have copyright rights are or own photos made by our official photografer in the Club.

Please what we have to do to post current photos in the post of Mestalla Stadium? And Why do you say that we don't have copyright if the are our own photos? You can check here http://en.valenciacf.com/ Thank you very much — Preceding unsigned comment added by VCFDigital (talk • contribs)

@VCFDigital: Hi,
Images published elsewhere previously, or made by an organisation need a written formal permission. Please see COM:OTRS for the procedure. The files can be restored once the permission is received. Regards, Yann (talk) 12:21, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello.

About File:Madame de Maintenon.jpg, I was not able to confirm the publication in the 17th century as far as I checked it. And similar file is unclear to prove the date, too. see File:Francoise Aubigne 1.jpg. Please tell me this source of information.

About File:Jean-Baptiste-Henri de Valincour.png, Author, date, source, and license is no fixed. Please answer what you thought that you can keep it based on. --Y.haruo (talk) 14:20, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Erased file

You erased a file that was voted to be kept. You went way too far now. I'm going ask you to bring it back. --Lecen (talk) 14:37, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

File:Madame de Maintenon.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Y.haruo (talk) 01:03, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Frotters_Mary

Excuse me, what was the point deleting that image? What was the problem with it if speak about law violations? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Disciple Of Eternity (talk • contribs)

@Disciple Of Eternity: Hi,
Please read COM:L and COM:DW. For all posters, and any image previously published, a formal written permission is needed. Please see COM:OTRS for the procedure. Regards, Yann (talk) 14:00, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you delete my photo....?

Why did you delete my photo....? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Williamslijpen (talk • contribs)

@Williamslijpen: Hi,
Because it is a copyright violation. Please read COM:Land COM:DW. Regards, Yann (talk) 16:01, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How will I be able to upload photos?

Hello Yann. I have a question. Why all of my uploaded files become unacceptable in the WikiCommons? What shall I do whenever I upload a file from Flickr? I placed the name of author and the source of the file. How come that I committed copyright violations? What would be an appropriate action for me when I upload pics from Flickr and seal a copyright license during the process? Raymarcbadz (talk) 19:13, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Raymarcbadz: Hi,
The files you uploaded are not under a free license. On Commons, only CC-BY and CC-BY-SA are acceptable. Licenses prohibiting changes (-ND) or commercial uses (-NC) are not accepted. Please read COM:L. Regards, Yann (talk) 11:28, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OTRS releases of painting thumbnails

Hi Yann, I see in the last few weeks you have verified a number of thumbnail sized images of paintings. At the current time OTRS volunteers are not guided to advise the artist that by releasing the thumbnail, they may be legally releasing future full size reproductions. My understanding of CC terms is that this is the currently accepted interpretation. Can I check, do you provide any advice for artists that this is what they are doing by providing an irrevokable release statement?

I am thinking of raising this for a more general discussion, but your image prompted its reconsideration, so I'm raising this with you first. Thanks -- (talk) 12:47, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, The OTRS release usually concerns a specific image. This is not restricted to paintings. I don't think there is anything specific for paintings in this issue. This concerns any image released under a CC license. Regards, Yann (talk) 13:39, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This may be a source of confusion. Any image which accurately reproduces a 2D artwork released on a CC licence, is a grant of the release of all faithful reproductions of the 2D artwork. I do not believe this is understood by most OTRS volunteers, nor is effort made to raise this with the donor of the image. This may be a good discussion to raise (again) on the village pump, I'll ponder when to do that. -- (talk) 13:46, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, I have raised the general point at Commons:OTRS/Noticeboard#OTRS_tickets_for_thumbnail_versions_of_images. -- (talk) 00:42, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Kundan Srivastava Author

Kundan Srivastava is recognized Indian Author and activist. He is also youngest founder of NGO. We upload his book launch photo http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kundan_Srivastava_Author_2014.jpg. It's our humble request Please don't delete. Source: http://www.kundansrivastava.com/book http://www.kundansrivastava.com/awards-achievement/ Thanks ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bihngo (talk • contribs)

@Bihngo: Hi,
Who is the photographer? Who is the copyright owner? Could you upload a bigger size with EXIF data? Please answer in the dleion request, it is much easier to follow discussions. Regards, Yann (talk) 13:34, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

1804 dollar images

Hello. I noticed that you recently closed several deletion discussions involving coin images, on the grounds that scans do not generate a copyright. However, you information is not correct. Coins are by law considered three-dimensional objects, so any scan or photograph thereof automatically creates a new copyright. As such, permission is required both from the designer of the coin or its copyright holder (in this case, the 1804 dollar [actually made between 1834 and approximately 1860] is in the public domain both as a work of the U.S. federal government and as a design published prior to 1923). The uploader of those images just uploaded the scans/photos directly from a website, with no permission. Since the coins are three-dimensional objects, the original photographer maintains the copyright to the images themselves (not the coin), so those uploads are unambiguous copyright violations. There is no indication that the original uploader was the author of the images, or that they are in any way public domain. For more information, see Commons:Currency. Also see Commons:When to use the PD-Art tag#Photograph of an old coin found on the Internet, which explicitly states that coin images are not in the public domain unless the photographer releases them as such.-RHM22 (talk) 14:56, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,
I know Commons policy about this. A photograph of a coin creates a copyright. However a scan doesn't. Regards, Yann (talk) 15:01, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I don't believe that's accurate, but if it is, do you have some evidence that the images are scans and not photographs?-RHM22 (talk) 15:03, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Also, could you please point me to the policy which states that scans of coins and medals do not generate a new copyright?-RHM22 (talk) 15:05, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This is a logicial consequence: accurate mecanical reproduction, i.e. scans, do not produce a new copyright. In a case of a coin picture, only the lighting can produce a copyright. If you put a coin on a scanner, you don't choose the light. Regards, Yann (talk) 15:23, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
So am I to assume that you have some evidence that the coins were scanned, and not photographed? Unless you do, there is no evidence that the images are in the public domain. Even so, I am aware of no policy which states that scans of three-dimensional objects are automatically public domain anyway. If there is such a policy, please do point me in its direction. I've been working on coin articles on the English-language Wikipedia for some years now, and it has always been quite well established that coin images are protected by copyright laws unless there is some evidence to the contrary.-RHM22 (talk) 15:38, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That's what is mentioned in the description pages. You need to think, not to blindly read policies. You obviously can't scan a statue, so the point is moot to discuss the general copyright status of a scan of a 3D work. Coins are special here because of their size and very narrow thickness. Regards, Yann (talk) 15:51, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, I have had plenty of time to think since I began writing coin articles and uploading coin images in 2010. With respect, you are wrong. Coins are essentially a small bas relief, so it's no different than scanning an artwork of that type. Besides, as I alluded to above, you have no evidence that the coin images weren't taken under artistic circumstances, including posing and lighting. In fact, I would go so far as to say that they almost certainly were, as rare coins are almost always photographed under special conditions in order to improve the appearance of the photograph. I think it has become necessary to reopen the discussions regarding these coins at some future point, to get a more thorough consensus. As it is, you are disregarding years of precedent regarding coin images, thereby establishing a new one, and I don't think it's appropriate for one individual to make that decision.-RHM22 (talk) 16:09, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I think enough judgment is required to make a coin image that it creates a copyright. Even from a scanner.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:41, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Copyright is not based on judgement, but on creativity and originality. There is no originality nor creativity required to scan a coin. That's the point. Yann (talk) 20:12, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'll not continue this discussion here any longer, because it's becoming increasingly circular. However, I will say that I agree with Wehwalt, but even if he is incorrect and simple scans do not generate a copyright, that is irrelevant and does not apply here. The 1804 dollar is a rare and valuable coin, and these images originate from world-renowned coin sellers. It can be said almost with certainty that they were not simply plopped on a scanner, as doing so creates a relatively poor image that does not accurately reflect the true appearance, luster and color. As an example, here is what appears to be an amateur coin photography set-up: Coin Photography. Naturally, as the 1804 dollar is a rare and valuable coin, the photography work would be performed by professionals, although they would be using a similar, but more advanced, apparatus. They were not simply scanned on some guy's aunt's flatbed. As I said, my personal belief (which is supported by years of consensus, including that of at least one lawyer questioned by members of Commons) is that any coin image automatically generates a new copyright unless under very specific circumstances (if they are released by their creator into the public domain, or if they were created under circumstances that would automatically render them as such), as coins are a work of relief and not a two-dimensional object. The precedent is well-established, so your reading of the policy is your own and does not reflect the prior rules set down by consensus of numerous other members.-RHM22 (talk) 23:14, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I suppose you mean this? Commons:Deletion requests/File:1804 Silver Dollar - Class I - Cohen-ANA Specimen.jpg My decision is based on fact, not on vague assumption. The description says it is a scan. Yann (talk) 23:23, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the Commons upload page says "scan." If you look to the sources of the images, nowhere does it say that the images are scans. That was simply the word chosen by the uploader. Every page linked as a source does not specify how the images were taken. By the way, you say that your decision was based on a fact. My objection to your decisions was also based on fact; that is, the fact that coin images are explicitly listed as generating a new copyright in official Commons rules. Anyway, like I said above, I will take no further action in this venue unless prompted. I think we need to establish consensus from uninvolved editors and admins, to determine how we much interpret the Commons rules. I will open such a discussion as soon as I can ascertain the appropriate venue.-RHM22 (talk) 23:47, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A scan is a digital image. A digital photograph is also a digital image. A scan is simply another form of digitally photographing an object (though it does tend to work best with two-dimensional objects). I understand that WMF believes that faithful representations of 2D public domain objects are also in the public domain. But coins are 3D. First, have you ever gotten quality scans of coins? It doesn't really work very well. And with coins of any value (1804 Dollar), I can't imagine someone using a scanner (though they might claim to if they thought it would help their case). You comment twice that scans do not generate copyright here and here. If this latter image came from the ANA, it was never originally captured as a scan… No chance. Let's request OTRS to have a look at these two cases...--Godot13 (talk) 00:02, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
OK fine. I reopened the DRs. Regards, Yann (talk) 00:04, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OTRS

Hello, suite à cette DR, j'ai contacté l'ONG qui défend Badawi, puis uploadé l'image qu'ils acceptaient de mettre dans le domaine public. Aucune suite au mail que j'avais envoyé à OTRS. Pourrais-tu stp y jeter un coup d’œil ? Si besoin, je peux te le faire suivre. Cordialement, — Racconish 📥 07:22, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Racconish: Bonjour,
Il y a deux tickets pour cette image : Ticket:2015011910018103 et Ticket:2015011910014983, avec apparemment la même correspondance. Le souci est d'être bien sûr que la personne qui a envoyé cette permission est bien le possesseur des droits. Je te mettrais en copie. Cordialement, Yann (talk) 11:00, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Il me semble que s'il y a deux tickets, c'est parce que j'ai forwardé mon mail initial pour préciser que l'auteur était l'épouse de Badawi et non Badawi comme je l'avais initialement indiqué par erreur. Je pense qu'il n'y a pas de doute sur le fait que l'ONG PEN défend les intérêts de la famille Badawi et en particulier de son épouse. Si je peux être utile, fais le moi savoir. Cordialement, — Racconish 📥 11:06, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Yann,

I am writing in reply to your deletion of the file Pavillon de l'eau.jpg . As regard to the copyright violation, I have already sent to this addresses permissions-fr@wikimedia.org and permissions-commons-fr@wikimedia.org the réédition application for the picture with the business card of my chef to prove that we own the copyrights.

If you would like any further information, please don't hesitate to contact me.

Best regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eaudeparislf (talk • contribs)

✓ Done Yann (talk) 11:07, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Yann,

I added a valid OTRS-ticket to this file but I forgot to remove the speedy template I'm afraid. Do you mind if I undelete the file? Silly me :p Natuur12 (talk) 15:41, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OK, fine. Yann (talk) 15:43, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

About Mammals of Sri Lanka coverpage

I must say that that photo was taken by me when at home. Because I bought the book and I have it. So I don't think there is anything about its legal matter to delete the photo. It is entirely my own work. Thank You, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gihan Jayaweera (talk • contribs)

@Gihan Jayaweera: Hi,
Ownership of the books does not give you the copyright. Please read COM:DW. Also do not copy files from Flickr unless the license is CC-BY or CC-BY-SA. Other licenses (-NC or -ND) are not accepted. Regards, Yann (talk) 11:58, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have uploaded an alternative crop and would appreciate if you could indicate a preference, or that you have no strong preference. Thanks. -- Colin (talk) 12:04, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Files by User:MikaV

Hi Yann, thanks for undeleting theses files. We have written a special template for this case: {{MikaVäisänen}} so you don't have to insert the OTRS-templates. It would be sufficient, if you restore the files. Thanks and kind regards, --Emha (talk) 16:47, 16 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Emha and Martina Nolte: Hi,
I restored these files. See also MikaV's talk page. Regards, Yann (talk) 21:41, 16 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

Could you assist me with this situation? Thank You. 1989 17:00, 16 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Already done. ;oD Yann (talk) 17:04, 16 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How about my request deletion? You know that this file is doubtful ownership, and it's impossible if we only check from Google to know whether copyright violation or not. 39.224.188.48 01:34, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

See Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Div4uk. Yann (talk) 10:53, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

ToSVG and other Convert to SVG templates

I noticed that you have been deleting templates that redirect to {{Convert to SVG}}. I wanted to let you know in case you get another request: User:Sarang appears to be mass-editing to artificially create the appearance that the redirection templates are no longer in use, so that speedy deletion can be requested, when they are actually still popular. Despite Sarang's activity, there has been no consensus to delete and neither a DR nor even discussion notices placed on the templates. Sarang is mass-changing all the templates by doing VisualFileChange runs without edit summaries to explain what's going on; he did change {{ToSVG}} to a notice that the template was already in the process of being deleted, but used the misleading edit summary "maintenance" and then, when he was reverted, used the summary "in deletion" then kept putting it back. There does appear to be a discussion at Template talk:Convert to SVG#Too many redirects, in which Sarang observes that 42% of uses were not actually {{Convert to SVG}} directly, and several versions of redirects are edit-protected. He still hasn't filed a DR despite requests from both other users in the discussion. (I'd actually like to see edit protection on {{ToSVG}} like some of the other redirects have, since I use it whenever I manually tag something, but I would like to think that's not necessary.) --Closeapple (talk) 21:10, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Closeapple: Hi,
OK. What do you like me to do now? Regards, Yann (talk) 12:02, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think anything needs to be done now; I just wanted you to know in case you'd gotten any more speedy requests like that. Commons:Deletion requests/Template redirect:ToSVG has been started, and it appears that User:Sarang was just doing deletion the only way Sarang knew how, not trying to be sneaky, despite the edit wheeling on one template. (There are other users who frequently force their naming preferences without consensus, by mass-removing everything from a page and ignoring complaints, then tagging {{Speedydelete}} so an admin will delete it without a DR. I thought it was one of those people.) Thanks for your attention. --Closeapple (talk) 08:58, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oddvlar3

Hi, you recently blocked the user Oddvlar3[1] for repeatedly uploading copyvios. It appears he did not understand the warnings, since he contacted me by email writing in Norwegian asking why he was blocked, and I have explained that only free images are permitted here, which he understood. He is now asking to be unblocked. What do you think? FunkMonk (talk) 02:40, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@FunkMonk: Hi,
Message posted on his talk page. I would unblock him if we are sure that he understands the policies, and will follow them. He should use the {{Unblock}} template. Regards, Yann (talk) 15:36, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I've told him by mail, though I'm not sure he reads English well. I replied to him in Danish, which is mutually intelligible with Norwegian. FunkMonk (talk) 15:41, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@FunkMonk: Hi,
I think it is better that this discussion happens on his talk page, rather by mail, so that all admins are aware of it. Either I can use Google Translate, or ask an admin speaking his language to act/respond. Regards, Yann (talk) 15:46, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nouveaux Scans

Je sais, mais autant les supprimer, car, outre la machine, le titre et/ou la description ayant changé, il faudra de toute façon renommer
Merci. --Daniel Villafruela (talk) 15:11, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Donald Sainz

Hello Yann, I created the page for Madrid Fashion Film Festival a few hours ago. I uploaded both the poster and the promo pics. I work for the company that created the poster and hired the photographer. How can I prove this? Thanks in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donald Sainz (talk • contribs)

@Donald Sainz: Hi,
Please send a permission following the procedure at COM:OTRS. Regards, Yann (talk) 15:33, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Yann, obviously the original picture has been overwritten yesterday (accidently, I suppose) by a "bad pictures" that qualified for speedy deletion. Can you please restore the original picture that was overwritten so we can put it back in the version of the de-WP article before it has been removed? Thx --Invisigoth67 (talk) 16:30, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Invisigoth67: Hi,
✓ Done Yann (talk) 16:52, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much for your quick response and action! --Invisigoth67 (talk) 16:57, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Suppression logo car mauvaise restitution lors de résolutions élevées

Bonsoir Yann,

J'ai procédé à une correction majeure du logo vectoriel SOS 112.

Permets-moi de te demander de supprimer à présent l'exemplaire problématique lors de résolutions élevées :

Je te remercie par avance.

Cordialement. --Bearlinux (talk) 20:00, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

HiddenSiberia copyright violations

Dear Yann,thank you for your message. It is my first time I am creating page at Wikipedia, therefore would be greatfull for your kind help.

I am representing the publisher of Hidden Siberia Magazine (Неизвестная Сибирь журнал), the copyright owner for the pictures, that were banned. I created the article (ru:Инкубатор:Неизвестная Сибирь (журнал)) and uploaded pictures of the magazine covers, which were banned for copyright violations. These covers are taken from the official web-site http://hiddensiberia.ru/magazin/zhurnal-neizvestnaya-sibir-nomer-9.-2013/.

Would you please let me know, how should I upload these pictures not to violate copyright.

Many thanks and best regards, Natalya — Preceding unsigned comment added by HiddenSiberia (talk • contribs)

@HiddenSiberia: Hi,
Please send a permission following the procedure at COM:OTRS. The files can be undeleted once the permission is received. Regards, Yann (talk) 11:17, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Marlene Harnois pictures

Hi Yann,

Why did you delete all the Marlene Harnois pictures when I own the pictures and uploaded them???

Please make the proper changes because i can not even upload them again since you have removed it and the content is flag!

Thank you,

Marlene harnois — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marleneharnois (talk • contribs)

@Marleneharnois: Bonjour,
Etant donné que vous êtes le sujet de ces photos, vous n'êtes pas par défaut le détenteur des droits, qui est le photographe. C'est pourquoi une permission est nécessaire. Voyez COM:OTRS/fr pour la procédure. N'hésitez pas à me demander si vous avez besoin d'aide, ou des questions. Cordialement, Yann (talk) 12:15, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Benedetto Vincenzo Nicotra Removed

Hello Mr. Yann,

Sorry for my imperfect english. I have uploaded about 6 photos about Benedetto Vincenzo Nicotra. Why you or wikipedia remove this picture from commons? The photo are mine and i take this photo (i have the negatives) but i have no problem if other people want use this, for me are free and anyone can use this photo. Can you help me? can you tell me how uploaded this photo?

Thank You

Mr. Maradoro — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maradoro (talk • contribs)

@Maradoro: Hi,
No problem with your English. ;o) For old pictures of personalities like these, a permission is better. Please see COM:OTRS for the procedure (or COM:OTRS/it in Italian). The pictures can be restored once the permission is received. Please ask if you need help, or have questions. Regards, Yann (talk) 12:19, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

TNL Onstage.png

Hi Yann,

I am writing in regards to the file I uploaded TNL Onstage.png it's the logo of the event on the article. If I get the permission email from the organization that created it to release it to the public domain is it just a matter of forwarding it or is there anything additional involved? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Suhirthanjk (talk • contribs)

@Suhirthanjk: Hi,
Please send the permission following the procedure at COM:OTRS. Thanks, Yann (talk) 17:08, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly scanned books material

Hi, I ckecked recently some of the contributions made by User Varing and found out that a lot of them seems to be taken from books (scanned book material), as the pictures quality is rather poor when their size is what I would describe as ok... I think that we should take a closer look and, why not, delete any files that have copyright problems... --Glorious 93 (talk) 13:56, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I corrected some of the descriptions and licenses, et I put him a message. Regards, Yann (talk) 20:19, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Bonjour, J'ai corrigé quelques unes des descriptions et licences, et je lui ai mis un message. Cordialement, Yann (talk) 20:19, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

File:Tienraivaajia Karjalassa.jpg was kept because it was in use. I have now changed to the color version on the wikipedias that used the file. Maybe you want to consider deleting the b/w version? --Jonund (talk) 17:09, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Exposition Eau sur Mars.jpg - Exposition eau art design.jpg - Exposition Ta mere en tong.JPG

Dear Yann,

Regarding the copyright issue, I have asent to the addresses permissions-fr@wikimedia.org and permissions-commons-fr@wikimedia.org the réédition application.

Best regards

Eaudeparislf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eaudeparislf (talk • contribs) 13:18, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Bandaadd.jpg

Good Afternoon Yann

I read that you said photo "File:Bandaadd.jpg" may not be own work. I am one of those who is pictured ( the boy on the right ) is my band and have taken the photo with my camera. As I can show you that the picture is mine ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by FedexADD (talk • contribs) 13:18, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

File:Gillesderais-jeanpleyers.jpg

Bonjour, je mets ici les dernières informations concernant la finalisation de la procédure au sujet de ce fichier : https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Service_d%27aide#Aide_concernant_File:Gillesderais-jeanpleyers.jpg
Devrais-je les placer ailleurs pour une meilleure visibilité ? N'hésitez pas à me conseiller là-dessus !
Bien cordialement. Montmorency1 13:18, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Yann, I am sorry, I referenced the wrong paintings, which I corrected now. Could you please look at it again. Thank you--Oursana (talk) 18:31, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Bonjour, j’ai mis en téléchargeant ces trois images toutes les indications possibles, il n’y a rien de significatif au verso des cartes et il n’y a pas de signature du peintre, une recherche sur le net dit que cette série (les Oilette sont par séries de six mais pas toujours, et celle-ci semble être de quatre, il me manque la première, The Start) est mentionnée dans les catalogues de 1911 à 1914, sans mention de l’auteur ; et que dans les années 40 une bombe est tombée sur la maison Tuck en détruisant tous les stocks. Pour tout dire, j’ai cru un bref instant que ce pouvait être Gilbert Wright (qui signait, lui) et qui est mort presque centenaire, donc pas encore domaine public. Mais très clairement, ce n’est pas lui. Voilà tout ce que je peux dire. La parole est au ministère public. --Morburre (talk) 17:38, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Morburre: Bonjour,
Cela serait utile de mentionner tout cela dans la page de discussion. Vu que le scan ne crée pas un nouveau droit d'auteur, il vaudrait mieux utiliser pour la licence {{PD-art-two|PD-UK-unknown|PD-1923}}. Cordialement, Yann (talk) 14:23, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Muti _Vital_plastic card

Dear Yann!

22/02/2015 I load up to the Wikimeida:Comons two photos of a plastic card received at the Multi_Viral promoconcert of Calle 13 in Madrid on 20/07/2014. This card was part of the payed enter ticket and avery card had a uniq code number which served to one-off download of the album Multi Viral from internet. I would like to reamarked, that I have participated at this concert and this card is my property, beacuse I have bought it, as any other cinema or thater ticket.

After I was ready with my articel Multi_Vital, I wanted to illustrate it with the copy of this plastic card. The secret code on the back side I made unrecognazible, howerever the down load termnin expierd some month again and the same code can't be use again.

15/02/2015 User:Ellin Beltz editor of Wikimedia Commons has created a en:A Voszi/Talk subpage and wared me, that both file can be deleted, but it depends on voting of other users. Same time he appointed mi to another page where I and other users can explain their arguments about the using of these files (BTW, actualliy ther are till now only my entries to this question.).

Today I opened the artical Multi_Viral and I was very surpride, becasue the back side photo of the plastic card has been removed from the article but the front side one reamain. And all this without any voting and notification, there are any new comments on the talk page of these file.

I would appreciate if I received some help and explication abaout using of fotos (pictures, portaits, etc.) in Wikimedia:Comon, especaily, that the Hungarian Copyright Low is different from that in Brittain and USA. I would like to notice, that this contradiction of using copy-righted media files between the USA and Britain can cause many problems for the foreign editors. For example I have written articals about each studioalbum of the group Calle 13, and all their album covers are available in the Miedia:Commos. But all the same time I had every time to asked a special permition from the provider for using these covers, because the "fair usage" is limited to the contries mentioned above and aren't applicable in other countries.

And now some questions:

  1. Why are thies photos inappropiate (or illegal) in Wikimedia?
  2. Why has been deleted the back side of the plastic card but the first one hasn't?
  3. May couse any problem the logo of the Calle 13 on this card? It can be see on the front side too! (It is so, I can show hundreds of Wkipedia pages, which contain registred trademarks and logos [of course, with permisson of the owner] and photos of the products labeled by the same tradmark of the same company, in the same artikel, without any extra permisson.)

Thanks! A Voszi (talk) 11:06, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@A Voszi: Hi,
Please read COM:DW. The front side is clearly a derivative work of the card. The back side may be de minimis. Regards, Yann (talk) 11:16, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mass deletion

Hi,
Many of your requests are not based on any legal rationale. This only creates more work for already very busy admins, and makes other contributors angry. You need to be more careful when creating DRs. This is a warning. Regards, Yann (talk) 18:41, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Yann. You're wrong. Many files deleted. This is a warning for angry contributors, cuz their illegal files deleted. I hope they'll be very careful when uploading an illegal file. Thanks for your connection... Vikiçizer (talk) 16:15, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Vikiçizer: Sorry, but no. You are wrong. Some files were deleted, but many were kept. This critic doesn't come from the files uploaders, but from me, an experienced admin. You need to change your evaluation, or there will be problems. Regards, Yann (talk) 20:11, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I understood. 98% of the files deleted, maybe more. U can check my contributions but it does not matter, I will not create DR serial. No problems. No privileges. Thanks for message. Regards...Vikiçizer (talk) 21:17, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Yann,

File:Run DMC 1989.jpg is a derivative work of one of those. Was it overlooked somehow? Regards --Rosenzweig τ 23:03, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, as it is used on many projects, I open a DR on this. Regards, Yann (talk) 09:11, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Help for restoration and transferring images to the appropriate category

Hello, as you can see in Commons:Village pump#"Female_humans" the misunderstanding about the category Category:Female humans is resolved. I opened a new category Category:Temporary categories for User:Chenspec Cat-a-lot - Female humans and I want to transfer all images cataloged in Category:Female humans that were removed from it. Is there an automated way to do this without going one by one?, I put a lot of time and a that is a huge amount of images ... Thanks Chenspec (talk) 20:45, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Chenspec: ✓ Done with 583 edits, should be every file in your contributions history that you added to 'Female humans' with Cat-a-lot, based on the auto-generated edit summary. Revent (talk) 22:23, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks! Chenspec (talk) 20:15, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ticket:2014121110017271 received with attached images. Seems related to this DR. I didn't get why you said "out of scope". This is the related page. Jee 17:16, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Jkadavoor: Hi,
I didn't see this ticket before. Looking at it now. Regards, Yann (talk) 18:34, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I restored the images which match the ticket. Other don't. Also some images in the ticket are not uploaded AFAIK. Regards, Yann (talk) 18:50, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I suggested him to upload other files too if needed. Jee 02:22, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Bonjour je voulais vous demander comment je peux avoir la license de ce fichier ? File:Djamel_Dahou_promotion.jpg. — Preceding unsigned comment added by YacineDZ (talk • contribs)

Pourquoi vous avez supprimé la photo de Djamel ? le site www.123algeriasport.com c'est lui qui a volé la photo du compte officiel sur Facebook, du coup vous pouvez la voir sur Facebook c'est Djamel lui-meme l'auteur, il m'a envoyé un mail contenant la photo en me demandant de la mettre sur Commons c'est quoi ce délire ? j'attends des réponses --YacineDZ (talk) 10:21, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@YacineDZ: Bonjour,
Cette image n'a pas été créée par vous, aussi vous ne pouvez pas l'importer ici sans une permission de l'auteur. Désolé. Cordialement, Yann (talk) 10:19, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@YacineDZ: Merci de lire COM:L et COM:DW avant d'importer des fichiers ici. Cordialement, Yann (talk) 10:26, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Hello,

Tahnk you for revising my most recent edits/speedy deletion request & co. I've all theses files in my watchlist and will improve my further edits by taking care of COM:TOO and {{PD-Art}}.

Scoopfinder(d) 12:41, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Giving me warnings, threatening me, saying I'm copyrighting

I did nothing wrong I did NOT steal other people's work I gave credit, cites, and sources of correct and valid information to every picture I contributed and every page I contributed to. Do not threaten me. I did not violate anything. Instead of wasting your time with someone following the rules, use it for more appropriate things, such as removing user who DO violate terms. There was only 1 photo that I recall not citing correctly, as it was the first time I ever used the website and it would not let me edit and fix my mistake after it. All my other 3 photographs were accurate. I am a normal person and user like you. Realize that and have a good day. Thank you.

User, Conattack — Preceding unsigned comment added by Conattack (talk • contribs)

@Conattack: Hi,
Please read COM:L and COM:DW. You are not allowed to upload files you find on the web without a permission of the author. Regards, Yann (talk) 20:54, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

HBonnenberg

Dear Yann, I don't know HBonnenberg by person, but as to the corps we cooperate since some years. He`s alright but cannot cope with Commons. I sent him my comments to all your items in [2]. To the best of my knowledge I corrected all faults. Please let me know if you agree with the amendments. Avec mes sentiments les meilleurs.--Mehlauge (talk) 18:09, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Mehlauge: Hi,
I stricked the files where the license and the date were corrected. Thanks for your help. Regards, Yann (talk) 21:34, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted your user page

Someone was either test editing or made a problem of your user page, so I took the liberty of reverting it for you. I like your Enlightenment quotation too much not to see it! Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 04:59, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes i do have question

Hi Yann,

I was wondering then how that this logo is used here: en:File:Brooklyn_Botanic_Garden_(logo).png

I uploaded it on purpose solely because of this to see how wikipedian copyright policy worked, does making the image smaller apply?

Thanks --Bungutebungute (talk) 02:49, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Bungutebungute: Hi,
This logo is published under a fair use rationale on the English Wikipedia only. This is a special exception which is not allowed on Commons. See en:Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline for details. Regards, Yann (talk) 10:23, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Yann,

It may be a bit tedious, however refreshing my mind as to the deletion and undel discussions, the copyright of any *specific* Lindt bunny design was not actually addressed. Instead the undel appears to hinge on quotes from a generic legal pursuit of any use of gold foil wrapped traditional bunnies. The particular images has several copyrightable elements, not just the design of the chocolate shape, but the printing on the foil, such as the eye, ear lobe and logo. There seems sufficient to have a specific deletion review in a way that was previously taken on a tangent.

Do you have strong objections for taking this for another ride? Thanks -- (talk) 23:56, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I have objections. Fæ, you should look after real problems, not playing games and trying to undermine the system. Regards, Yann (talk) 08:34, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You are making clearly bad faith personal allegations, so there seems little point in canvassing your view on whether it is helpful properly to determine copyright in these cases. I am sorry you are not prepared to act collegiately. -- (talk) 12:36, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Yann, The owner of this meadia file sent mail with permission. Can you approve or check? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BearWithoutHead (talk • contribs)

✓ Done Yann (talk) 12:33, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have question too

Problem: User talk:Mulčovací kůra - copyright violation.

Please tell me, where you found the original photo? This picture are ugly work, maybe is it profesional work. But, I'm not sure of violate rights. Try to give me proof. Very thanks for your efforts. And please... do not give strong caution blocking the confused beginner. This man trying edit wikipedia, probably first time. Be happy, do not hurry with noise. --I.Sáček, senior (talk) 14:30, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@I.Sáček, senior: Hi,
The bot added these warnings because there was no license and the source mentioned was www.mulcovacikura.cz. Thanks for your help. Regards, Yann (talk) 14:33, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Probably is it copyvio, not a mistake. --I.Sáček, senior (talk) 14:50, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hdsc.10

Hi Yann i dont to be bloqued i upload many pics but - the photo i use in wiki is from my dad - hi was profesional squash player- i want to put a picture i have a lot but have scary to be bloqued now- Can i putt a photo was takwn from me in 1988 whe was a squash player

thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hdsc.10 (talk • contribs)

@Hdsc.10: Hi,
Because this is a poster and the image was taken by a professional photographer, you need a permission from the photographer or the copyright holder (the magazine or the poster designer). Sorry. Regards, Yann (talk) 17:01, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

is there a way to include a screen shot of a newspaper article in a wikipedia page? is there a valid copyright code for doing that?

Ti (3rdi-info (talk) 23:53, 3 March 2015 (UTC))[reply]

@3rdi-info: Hi,
No. You need the permission of the newspaper editor to publish it under a free license, which is not going to happen. Sorry. Regards, Yann (talk) 08:43, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

copyright whatever

Hello yarn, I received email of the interest in deleting a list of content I uploaded recently. Fortunately, I won't be contesting for its undeletion or whether it should be deleted or not.

Those images were explicitly emailed to me from the celebs. I rest my case and as per whatever policies exist on Wikipedia, may the article or multimedia be deleted or not. -- --Nkansahrexford (talk) 19:33, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Nkansahrexford: Hi,
If you have a permission, please forward it to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org. Plese see COM:OTRS for the details. Regards, Yann (talk) 20:07, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright

Hi, I've been warned many times, and I have one question: is it allowed to upload a photo uploaded by the author to ex. instagram? Like this one https://instagram.com/p/zFaK-GzDqs/?modal=true Person on the photo is owner of the account and he uploaded his own photo, I was warned for this one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jm131131 (talk • contribs)

@Jm131131: Hi,
You need a permission from the photographer. Please see COM:OTRS for the procedure. Regards, Yann (talk) 20:06, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What exactly is the difference between the file you just deleted and the front pages shown on The New York Times, NRC Handelsblad or en:File:The_Guardian_6._6._14.jpg? PPP (talk) 21:14, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@PPP: Hi,
These files are on the English Wikipedia under a fair use rationale. This exception is not allowed on Commons. Regards, Yann (talk) 21:31, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Commons:Deletion requests/File:PikiWiki Israel 38189 Cloudy sky-a tree in the snow- on the road to the .jpg

WRT Commons:Deletion requests/File:PikiWiki Israel 38189 Cloudy sky-a tree in the snow- on the road to the .jpg is it really worth keeping given that after it is rotated and cropped correctly the image will be of very little use? It also has a bad file name. Alan Liefting (talk) 23:51, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Alan Liefting: Hi,
There is no reason to delete that file. It can be renamed if necessary. Regards, Yann (talk) 08:45, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I would like the nomination to be reopened and left open for a longer period to get some actual discussion on it. Alan Liefting (talk) 00:37, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What's your story punk?

You deleted all the images our band uploaded to our Wikipedia page. Are you out of your mind? Contact us immediately to avoid further action. info@orpheusband.com Orpheusband (talk · contribs), 2015-03-07T00:09:12‎

(talk page stalker) reaches for the popcorn… -- Tuválkin 00:38, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Orpheusband: Hi,
If you own the copyright of these images, please send a permission following the procedure at COM:OTRS. Beware that threats my get you blocked. Regards, Yann (talk) 10:53, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright violations

Dear Yann,

I never uploaded any copyrighted images. I dont know why all images being removed. Pls tell me proper way to upload images.and sorry If I did anything wrong before... --Abhinand1234 (talk) 03:05, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Abhinand1234: Hi,
You may not upload images you find on the web. If you want to upload any images which were published elsewhere before (on the web or paper), the copyright owner needs to send a permission following the procedure at COM:OTRS. Regards, Yann (talk) 10:56, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Question about removal of nominations

Hi Yann, I withdrew one of my nominations in FPC. What is the exact procedure for removing the nomination from the candidate lsit? Is this done by an admin or can I do this myself (immediately, after 1 day 2 day ...)? Cheers --CEphoto, Uwe Aranas (talk) 08:35, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, You can do it yourself. FPC management is not reserved to admins. Anyone can do it. Regards, Yann (talk) 11:12, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, good to know! Thank you very much, cheers --CEphoto, Uwe Aranas (talk) 11:27, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't suppose you know your source for the high-res version? It seems a good FP subject, but it'll need a source first and a little light restoration. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:10, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Adam Cuerden: Very nice photo, it's at http://www.moma.org/collection/browse_results.php?criteria=O%3AAD%3AE%3A4928&page_number=2&template_id=1&sort_order=1 but I can't figure out a specific URL to the full-resolution version through their javascript foo. I'd be willing to see what I could do in Gimp to get a less overblown version if I was given a link to a full-resolution image... I don't think working from the existing one would work, as it's so overblown that some detail is probably already lost. If someone comes up with the URL for a full-res, feel free to ping me. Revent (talk) 06:18, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Revent: Hey! I called restoring it first! ;) File:Bandits Roost, 59 and a half Mulberry Street.jpg. Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:27, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I added my source. Regards, Yann (talk) 07:56, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yann, you speedy deleted this as copyvio. I was unable to find any information about the file, and I can't find who uploaded it originally (the file had been converted at some point). The deletion may have damaged an educational resource on en.wikiversity, and we may claim fair use there, so having the file or identifying where it came from can assist in repair. Can you help? Thanks. --Abd (talk) 00:28, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, The description says that it comes from [3], and there is no evidence of a free license. In addition, this user has a history of uploading copyvios. Regards, Yann (talk) 08:54, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

parvathy nair

@yann I have uploaded some new images ... Its uploading first time in the web in wiki,,, I taken those pics my self.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parvathy_Nair even current bio picture is nominated for speedy deletion ... If i need to upload a new picture of her what should i do. I m sure it wont be elsewhere in web. please help me out.--Abhinand1234 (talk) 09:21, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Image 3D en parallèle

Bonjour, j'ai eu le plaisir de réaliser un couple stéréoscopique (selon les règles !) à partir de deux de tes oeuvres. Ce couple peut être utilisé tel quel pour une vision 3D en parallèle, ou être converti en une autre technique d'édition stéréoscopique : une vue anaglyphique en couleurs, par exemple. Si tu as fait ces deux vues avec l'intention d'en faire une vue 3D, alors bravo, c'est complètement réussi ! Si ce résultat est dû au hasard, alors remercions le hasard, qui a vraiment bien fait les choses ! Fais-en d'autres ! Bien cordialement, --Ptyx (talk) 18:10, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Ptyx: Bonjour,
Merci beaucoup. J'apprécie vraiment. Cordialement, Yann (talk) 10:24, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

PD postcard deleted

Clearly this deletion nomination was for a PD image so, as I don't see any explaination or summary for your deletion, I'm asking for your thinking process here before requestion undeletion. Ww2censor (talk) 10:14, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Ww2censor: Hi,
As written in the DR, it was not deleted by me, but by Lymantria. Personally, I would accept it under {{Anonymous-EU}} as it doesn't seem to signed. Regards, Yann (talk) 10:22, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, sorry. I'm trying to catch up having been away for 10 days. I ask Lymantria. Thanks Ww2censor (talk) 10:32, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Non-free historic image license tag

Hello, I'm a little bit confused with this license tag for when it is valid and when it is not? The only thing I understand that it is not suitable for the Commons, but when it is valid in Wikipedia? There are some photos: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1948_Swallow_downwind.jpg or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chrisye_in_1977.jpg uploaded with the rationale of "Identification of singer during his early career" or "The image is used to show the Gold medal winner of the 1948 Olympic Sailing at Torbay, a subject of public interest. The significance of the picture is to help the reader grab the atmosphere of the event in a way that words alone could not convey". I'm currently heavily and almost completely reworking the Lithuania national basketball team article and the historic pictures of the awarding ceremonies would be really useful in it. Though, I'm unable to find any free pictures of some moments and consider using a few copyrighted pictures with this license tag. I already tried uploading some of such pictures in the past and all of them were deleted. Could you please explain me when this tag is valid? The documentation of it is kind of difficult to understand. Could I use, for example, these pictures:

  • In EuroBasket 2003 section (not expanded it yet): http://www.fibaeurope.com/files/%7B0DFB9A41-0EAD-4461-A54C-7BC7E5407D81%7Dlarge_h.jpg or http://www.fibaeurope.com/files/%7BB7121D46-306B-4DA7-9114-2A4B83AA2702%7Dlarge_h.jpg or another one extracted from book which shows the meeting of the team (Lithuania won the competition that year and these pictures shows the Lithuania national team players after the successful final game)
  • I also consider extracting the unsuccessful Šarūnas Jasikevičius shot when the clock was running down as picture from the video recording of the 2000 Summer Olympics semi-final versus the United States national team. At some point the close-up view is shown and after it, Jasikevičius' upset is displayed (he rests one of the advertising boards and drops his head down). If his shot would have been accurate, Lithuania would have advanced into the Olympic final for the first time.
  • It is also possible to extract some photos from books with the awarding ceremonies in 1992 Olympic Games and 2000 Olympic Games.
  • There also is no illustration from the EuroBasket 2013 awarding ceremony where Lithuanians became the European vice-champions. Could this picture be used: http://www.sekunde.lt/media/2013/09/LT.jpg ?

-- Pofka (talk) 14:35, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Pofka: Hi,
These images are imported under a fair use rationale. I don't edit much the English Wikipedia, so I don't know anything more than what is explained at en:Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline. You would get better answer there. Regards, Yann (talk) 14:46, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Okey, I'll try to ask someone from there. Thanks. -- Pofka (talk) 14:50, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

suppresion

Bonjou r pourquoi a tu supprimer plusieur photo de la chanteuse Ciara (chanteuse) sur commons? 93.6.227.129 16:06, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright violations/wheel gymnast

Hello Yann,

You have deleted some of the files I uploaded, because of copyright violations. How can I change that? I know the photographer who took the photos and I know that it is okay for him.

Alex — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wheelgymnast (talk • contribs)

@Wheelgymnast: Hi,
Please ask the photographer to send a permission as explained on COM:OTRS. Regards, Yann (talk) 18:05, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Bystander selfie

Yann, as you know, there is discussion of bystander selfies currently at Commons talk:Own work. At least one administrator seems to think that the matter is open-and-shut, and it's true that some administrators are using evidence (often obvious) that a bystander took a photo of the uploader as proof that the uploader was not the owner of the copyright and so could not release it, and this is leading to actual disruption, including an uploader being accused of being a "liar," because of claiming "own work." Yet I have been unable to find any prior discussion on-point. I have been studying the issue in depth at User:Abd/Bystander photos and am finding that there is no clear law on this, the closest thing I have found is a law review paper by a professor on the definition of authorship, and it does not take the naive position being asserted here. The paper notes certain interpretive contradictions in actual case law, and, in the end, it would lead to an opposite conclusion.

Has this issue ever been discussed by the community? If so, where? Thanks. --Abd (talk) 14:47, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Abd: Hi,
Yes, this was discussed on COM:VP/C, and Carl L., which I think is the most knowledgeable about copyright laws here expressed something like my opinion. But there was not any definitive conclusion. Regards, Yann (talk) 15:09, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Fae pointed me to a discussion, Commons talk:Transfer of copyright, and which led to two things: A deletion discussion where the file was kept and the person who held the camera was disregarded, and then a WMF "preliminary legal position," which is exactly on point: m:Wikilegal/Authorship_and_Copyright_Ownership#The_Example_of_the_Third_Party_Photographer. The conclusion there is diametrically opposite to what is being asserted, and your position is totally supported:
If someone wanted to take a picture of himself at a particular time and place, posed in a certain manner, but did not have a timer or tripod, and asked someone else to take the photo for him, most likely the person asking someone else to take his photo would be considered the sole author.
Thanks. I want to nail this down before proposing perhaps dozens of undeletions! I seem to be getting close. I will look for the discussion you mention. --Abd (talk) 15:53, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have come to a position ready to express. I'll see what comes up based on a draft at User:Abd/Bystander photos/Bystander selfies, which I have mentioned in the discussion at Commons talk:Own work. A fairly simple justification for the policy is on the attached Talk page. Comment is welcome, and, as well, advice on how to proceed. I've been reviewing deletion discussions, and Commons has been ragged about this, decisions have gone both ways, probably because the community never nailed this down. And at least one user has suffered fairly heavily from an imagination that the bystander must own the copyright. Thanks for your comments, let's get this straight. --Abd (talk) 23:45, 13 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Yann

File:Doan Manh Phuong.jpg is taken by myself and I uploaded it on http://husta.org.vn/n408_can-mot-mo-hinh-clb-tri-thuc-tre How can I proof this is mine and it is a free content? Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Duc88b (talk • contribs)

@Duc88b: Hi,
Since it was published elsewhere before being uploaded here, could you please send a permission following the procedure at COM:OTRS? Regards, Yann (talk) 14:28, 13 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Yann, Please see this deletion request. It is still open after 9 days of requesting. Make a decision on it. Thanks.--Hindust@niक्या करें? बातें! 06:56, 13 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done Yann (talk) 08:13, 13 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I did not post that message, Yann. Please see history.--Hindust@niक्या करें? बातें! 14:17, 13 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tableaux du MET

Hello, je pense que c'est ça que tu cherches. Sinon tu as aussi ce lien.--Thesupermat (talk) 14:59, 13 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Photos

Bonjour Yann, je suis novice dans Wikipédia et j'ai tenté de mettre des photos mais je ne sais pas comment faire par rapport aux lois et aux "violations". Merci de m'expliquer :)

Bonjour,
C'est simple. Vous pouvez importer les photos dont vous êtes l'auteur, si le sujet lui-même n'est pas sujet à un droit d'auteur. Pour les autres cas, il faut une autorisation des ayant-droits. Voyez COM:OTRS/fr dans ce cas. Cordialement, Yann (talk) 18:14, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

FP user problem

Am concerned about users Oldnewnew, Nobelpeopleuploader and Donninigeorgia. I seem to recall some sock/blocked user issues about a user editing/nominating Steinway piano pictures in the past. Wonder if we've got a sock problem again. -- Colin (talk) 20:59, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Colin: Hi,
Possibly. Please ask for check user with some links. Thanks, Yann (talk) 21:02, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Which noticeboard? -- Colin (talk) 21:03, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Colin: Commons:Requests for checkuser. Yann (talk) 21:05, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Not enough evidence about Donninigeorgia to link, other than being recently disruptive. -- Colin (talk) 21:31, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Image Jean Marie LEISSEN

Merci de la réponse. En fait l'image a été importée sous le nom File:Jean-Marie Leissen Portrait complet.jpg, puis effacée par manque de licence. Lorsque j'ai voulu transferer la même image sous une autre nom et mettre à jour la licence à utiliser, elle a été refusée. (Il y a aussi une image File:Jean-Marie Leissen Portrait.jpg qui a subi le même sort pour la même raison.) Hier, j'ai parcouru l'aide de Wikimédia et j'ai envoyé une requête à commonsOTRS/fr sous la forme d'un email à permissions-commons-fr@wikimedia.org, mais je ne suis pas certain que ce soit la bonne procédure, ni de m'être bien expliqué. Il faut être indulgent avec les débutants ! Cordialement Costemane Costemane (talk) 12:55, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Costemane: Bonjour,
Je vous ai répondu par mail. Cordialement, Yann (talk) 20:54, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
ticket:2015031510012103 et ticket:2015031510012078.

Closing deletion reviews early

Hello again. I note that you have closed at least two of my DRs early. One I have already mentioned and the other is the last one at Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Israel. THe policy at Commons:Deletion policy#Closure reads "In general, requests can be closed by an administrator after seven days." Can you please reopen them so that editors get a chance to discuss them? THanks. Alan Liefting (talk) 18:37, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Alan Liefting: When will you stop being disruptive? Don't try to reopen them, or continue in this way, or you will get blocked. This is a warning. BTW the 7-day rule is only an indication. A DR can be closed before 7 days, or after, depending of the case. Regards, Yann (talk) 20:12, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I think I have asked this of you before - what is disruptive about my editing? Alan Liefting (talk) 04:25, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You closed one of the DRs within three hours and the other within 24 hours. Don't you think that is a little to hasty? Alan Liefting (talk) 08:40, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I just uploaded a file with the above name. Is it the same as the one you deleted last year? I know her paintings are still covered by copyright, but this looks OK. WQUlrich (talk) 19:06, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@WQUlrich: Hi,
Sorry, I don't remember which files I deleted last year. It might be OK, but the source looks strange: Source: Turkish painting, what does that mean? Regards, Yann (talk) 20:40, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Here's the link to the site in question [4]. I have a feeling that the image you deleted is the self-portrait that comes up when you Google her name. Does this look familiar? [5]] WQUlrich (talk) 22:10, 16 March 2015 (UTC) PS: I've added that link to the file. WQUlrich (talk) 22:14, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mejor me doy de Baja

Sr. Yann, mejor ya no me bloquee, mejor me doy de baja, pero no se como hacerlo. si lo pueden hacer ustedes, perfecto, si no. me dicen como hacerlo.

Mr. Yann better not lock me better give me low, but not how. if they can make you perfect, otherwise. tell me how.

WADEMX777 (talk) 22:09, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dean Faulkner Wells Photos

Hi - Thank you. I am currently in the process of emailing OTRS for permission. Please note, I did request and receive via email permission from Larry Wells (husband of deceased Dean Faulkner Wells) and the Wells estate - see below. Do I need to attach this email with my request to OTRS?

My email to Larry Wells (husband of deceased Dean Faulkner Wells):

Can you please provide, as best as possible, the below information as requested of me by Wiki, for the photos you sent me?

First Photo: Dean Faulkner Wells: Briefly describe everything notable about the work. For a photo, mention the main things that are depicted, the occasion, or the place. Jacket photo of Dean Faulkner Wells was taken by Steve Parham in 1980 on the front steps of Rowan Oak, her uncle William's home in Oxford, MS, upon the publication of her first book The Ghosts of Rowan Oak: William Faulkner's Ghost Stories for Children in which Wells recounted the stories her uncle told her as a child.

Where this digital file came from — could be a URL, or a book or publication. From publisher's digital files, Yoknapatawpha Press, Oxford, MS.

Author Photo by Steve Parham

Full date of photo July 6, 1980

Second Photo: Every Day by the Sun book cover: Briefly describe everything notable about the work. For a photo, mention the main things that are depicted, the occasion, or the place Book jacket artwork designed by Crown Publishing Group for the 2011 memoir Every Day by the Sun: A Memoir of the Faulkners of Mississippi, by Dean Faulkner Wells. The three photos on the cover are used by permission of the Dean Faulkner Wells Collection: Dean as a young girl, her uncle William Faulkner and her father Dean Swift Falkner. In the background is a photograph of William Faulkner's home, Rowan Oak, in Oxford, MS, photo by Kevin Fleming.

Where this digital file came from — could be a URL, or a book or publication. From the 2011 book Every Day by the Sun published by Crown Publishing Group, a division of Random House, NYC, publishers of Every Day by the Sun (published Mar. 22, 2011).

Author Dean Faulkner Wells, author; Kevin Fleming, photographer

Full date of photo Book cover art design completed June 24, 2010

Can you provide information regarding their copyright status? Are they restricted?

1 Dean's photo: Copyright status: Steve Parham took the photo for the cover of THE GHOSTS OF ROWAN OAK. Yoknpatawpha Press owns the rights to this image and WIKI is welcome to display it. - Larry Wells, publisher, Yoknapatawpha Press, husband of Dean F. Wells, current address: 510 S. Lamar, Oxford, MS 38655

2. Cover artwork Every Day by the Sun: Copyright status: The cover art of Every Day by the Sun was designed by Crown Publishing, and unrestricted use to WIKI is granted by the Dean Faulkner Wells estate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:6:c80:546:dc1b:23eb:584f:5d7e (talk • contribs)

File:Dean file photos.jpg, File:Every Day by the Sun.jpg, User talk:Penslips
@Penslips: Hi,
For importing files which were published elsewhere previously, you need a formal written permission. Please see COM:OTRS for the procedure. Regards, Yann (talk) 16:31, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Calamins

Hello! I uploaded some photos of the bar I work for. I'm the manager of the Red Garter in Florence, one of the oldest American Bars in Italy. I put some photos of the bar such as our official registered trademark (it is a registered trademark with Oami since 2013). I don't know if I did some mistakes in the uploading/options. What can I do to correct them? Thank you Eleonora Calamini — Preceding unsigned comment added by Calamins (talk • contribs) 16:05, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Calamins: Hi,
For importing files which were published elsewhere previously, you need a formal written permission. Please see COM:OTRS for the procedure. Regards, Yann (talk) 16:06, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Copyright Watcher Barnstar
For your hard work on Wikimedia Commons, especially on the area of copyright. The oldest admin deserves a barnstar! Jianhui67 talkcontribs 10:35, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Yann why wasn't this a valid request? The user's edit count? Maybe a hoax request, maybe a very inexperienced contributor but some kind of explanation would have been nice to everyone why it was considered invalid so people do not have to look it up themselves. Thanks for your commitment. -- Rillke(q?) 11:23, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Rillke: Hi,
The request was deleted by A.Savin, and this user has 9 edits on Commons. Regards, Yann (talk) 11:26, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Need help

Could you please rev del my Ip adress +this comment? Was not logged in.. --Hafspajen 14:09, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

✓ Done Yann (talk) 14:21, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Yann. --Hafspajen 19:15, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Deletion of Rochdale Super League Images

Why have you requested for some of these images to be deleted. I have personally created these myself and these are my own work. Please Explain!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattr2015 (talk • contribs)

@Mattr2015: Hi,
For complex logos, you need to send a permission (see COM:OTRS). For small pictures, it would be much better if you upload the original with EXIF data. Regards, Yann (talk) 11:42, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Purported Copyright Violations

Hello, Yann. My apologies for appearing to be uploading images & photos that have been construed as violations, or that I appear to be doing so in deliberate defiance of previous editorial direction. All the images in question were given to me by the owner or creator with permission to use them, so I thought they were okay to upload. I'm a rookie here on Wikipedia, and don't always "get" the rules, so I didn't understand why the previous images were deleted. I figured I had missed some point or other, and so I tried again with different images, also given to me by the creator. I started to upload another couple of images today, but stopped the process when I saw your note. Please don't ban or block me. I will simply stop trying to upload any images of any sort and leave that to others in the future. Thank you for your patience and understanding. ChriCom (talk)Chricom 18 March 2015

@ChriCom: Hi,
For pictures made by others, the copyright owner (usually the photographer) has to send a permission (see COM:OTRS). For the magazine cover, Nate Butler has to send a permission. Regards, Yann (talk) 11:54, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Abd

As I think you know, I've been working on the bystander selfie issue. Some background: my home wiki is Wikiversity. I noticed that a user, ShustovVal, edited the user page for Shustov, commented about it (we don't like that!), and looked into the accounts globally, and saw what had been happening here. I recognized the issues from long work with confused users, and this one was quite confused! He is almost eighty years old....

He has been creating resources on matters where he's expert: the mitigation of earthquake damage -- he is or has recently been a professor in the field -- and exercise. As part of this, he had bystanders take photos and videos of himself. He also used a self-timer on occasion, apparently. By the time we are his age, we often don't remember exactly what we did in a particular situation! He did not lie, but his raising the self-timer issue was taken as a lie. I read his argument the same as I've read similarly from others: if I could have used a self-timer, why are you assuming I did not?

In any case, this took me into the whole issue of bystander selfies, because something seemed off to me about the arguments I was seeing, not to mention the gross incivility I ran across. He was uncivil himself, but ... he was also treated rather badly. I engaged with him and warned him about his behavior, and he trusted me, which is why his disruptive incivility has ceased. I'm now working gradually on repairing the damage.

In working on User:Abd/Bystander photos/Deletion discussions, which I think is just the tip of the iceberg, I reread Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by ShustovVal, where you closed based on the arguments of two users who think that bystander selfies are absolutely not releasable by the subject. That, as you know, conflicts with WMF legal opinion. I can also show contrary case law and expert opinion, and substantial Commons precedent as well. It is possible to argue that the bystander has some ownership, but what is problematic is arguing that, under these circumstances, the subject has no copyright. If the subject has copyright or a joint copyright, the subject may release the files for our use. Some of us have made the whole thing far more complicated than it need be.

Would you reconsider that close? Depending on the outcome of the work I'm doing developing consensus on this, I expect I will be requesting undeletion of many files, but generally, my intention has been to do this at once, because it's a solitary issue. So it's okay to leave it as it is, but I would rather ask you now. If there is cleanup to do, I'd be happy to handle it, I just did that with this.

As well, are you aware of other bystander selfie deletions or deletion discussions? It is not easy to find these! And, as well, if you have any suggestions about how I can or should proceed? I'm all ears. I do know my way around a wiki and generic wiki process. But you are highly experienced here. --Abd (talk) 21:09, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,
Files from ShustovVal are a different issue, IMO. These are not selfies, but derivative works of YouTube videos. I think that pictures made by passer-by are fine, if the passer-by did not do anything else than pushing the button. This has to be reviewed on case by case basis. Regards, Yann (talk) 10:32, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry about not making a section header!
ShustovVal = Shustov, openly acknowledged and definite. (Also User:ShustovVal and User:Vshustov and I also find User:Shu0010
If these are derivative of Youtube videos, this was not shown in the DR. (I consider bystander selfies to include videos; Shustov writes that sometimes the bystander only held the camera, it was started by self-timer. Holding the camera means establishing and maintaining framing in all bystander selfies. Because self-timer for videos seemed implausible to me, I questioned him on this carefully. He wrote that he used the self-timer because he had experience that bystanders did not properly press Record and he then had to redo the video. So the only job he gave them. sometimes, was holding the camera.
Now, if there are issues as to licenses for videos that he uploaded to Commons, that is a very different issue, and I'm surprised it was not brought up in the DR. Was the youtube video source acknowledged in the files? I cannot tell our upload dates because the files have been deleted. What information should Shustov gather, and what steps should he take so that these files may be properly licensed? Thanks. --Abd (talk) 15:03, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If you will temporarily undelete the files, I will gather what information is in them. Thanks. --Abd (talk) 15:06, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If addition to copyright issues, I think that these pictures are self-promotion, so out of scope here. The videos may be useful, and I asked the uploader several times to upload them with a permission, or to change the license on YouTube. Shustov only answered with attacks and insults. See also Jim's talk page, and the relevant DRs. Regards, Yann (talk) 11:58, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'm quite aware of Shustov's history. He very much did not understand what was happening, that's clear, from this and other interactions. Yann, I studied this case before becoming involved. And I've reprimanded him for incivility. You might notice that he has stopped.
However, that's not relevant to the license issues. Many, many of his deleted images were in actual use, so not out of scope. What I've seen with Shustov, and this case is typical, is that a nom is made on one issue. And it's resolved, but becomes a nom on another issue. Now, two more issues have been raised for the same files. I am not saying that the issues are not legitimate issues. I'm suggesting that we understand how this will look to a user like Shustov. Yes, he got cranky, very cranky. And so have some others with less excuse than him. I'm still asking for temporary undeletion, so I may examine the files, instead of guessing. Should I take the above as a denial of the request? Thanks. --Abd (talk) 20:59, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]